A Real Hero

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Uncles, Oct 23, 2007.

  1. jebac

    jebac Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you are right in wag the dog
    Robert DeNiro on the left and Dustin Hoffman on the right :D

    In the Behind Enemy Lines Owen Willson at the bottom.
     
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  2. looseleaf

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    Yeah yeah...war is hell isn't it?

    What about those brave Serbian militia and soldiers sniping children in the school buses?

    Good "Christian" Serbs protecting their homeland from the "Turks" , huh? and all these years I thought Yugoslavia was a Communist country....ha ha ha....

    ...and what about the Serb separatist that shot Archduke Ferdinand and started the great war?

    Tesla was a great man and he got the fuck out of Dodge as soon as possible.

    Despite all the natural beauty and great architecture and beautiful women there , the historical general attitude shows a very poor educational system and the resultant current impoverished cultural state of mind has turned one of the most beautiful countries of the world into one of the greatest Western shit holes.

    Get a grip. Snap out of it. Roll-up your sleeves and get to work. It's no one's fault but your own.
     
  3. jebac

    jebac Well-Known Member

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    lol emotions emotions....emotions
    Here we have just another kauch potato brainwashed simple personality.
    I will not even atempt to argue with you on topic since you can't look left or right 'tunel vision' and you have, provided, unilateral opinion.
    Do I smell Turkey.... ;)
     
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  4. looseleaf

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    The real story about the bomb is that NO ONE in the military, Eisenhower, MacArthur, all the generals did not want to use the bomb. The scientist that made the bomb, Einstein, Oppenheimer et al agreed that at best to make a demo drop somewhere safe where no life would be lost, but never to use it on people.
    That would set the precedent that whomever in the future would develop such a weapon would have the moral license to use it against a population as it had been used before.

    That idiot Truman listened to all the arm chair OSS/future NSA (new American Fascist/Nazi/plutocrats and backers of the 1933 attempted coup d'etat).
     
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  6. DZIVDZAN

    DZIVDZAN Well-Known Member

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    BULL SHIT. They changed name from UCK to ANA and if you don't know there are some TV records from last month wher ANA show it self in uniforms and wepons with masks on their faces.Hashim Tachi, Agim Cheku, Ramush Haradinai where liders of UCK and now they are respect politicians. How that liders of terrorist organization (as you said that UCK is labeled) can be in politics?

    MORE BULL SHIT. So we can targeted any TV staton we don't like, cos they talk Bull Shits we don't like

    THE BIGGEST BULL SHIT. Ask some citizens of Nis about Clusters bombs in centar of town and hospitals. Ask citizens of Aleksinac about laser guided munition. Ask ppl who was in train traveling trough Grdelica gorgr on the bridge (sory you can't ask them they are dead)

    The most serious incident involving civilian deaths and the use of cluster bombs occurred on May 7 in Nis (incident no. 48). The mid-day attack on Nis airfield, which is located inside the urban zone, killed fourteen civilians and injured twenty-eight. Cluster bomb submunitions fell in three widely separated areas: near the Pathology building of the Nis Medical Center in southeast Nis; in the town center near the Nis University Rector's Office, including the area of the central city market place, the bus station near the Nis Fortress, and the "12 February" Health Center; and near a car dealership and the "Nis Express" parking lot across the river from the fortress.(Human Right Watch Report)

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/uran-a13.shtml

    But who invaded Serbia in 1999 without of UN resolution? mb Croats or Al Kaida, who bombed my town and towns in Serbia. WHO? The answer is NATO and USA(NWO)
    After Dayton all Western government declare Milosevic as a PEACEMAKER LOOOOOOOOOOL
    Looool Rambuillet.Albanians put their signiture only cos they know Serbian Would't.If you read Rambuillet agreement you know that no one President would put it signiture on it.

    "The Rambouillet text of Feb. 23, a month before NATO began bombing, contains provisions that seem to have provided for NATO to occupy the entire Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, not just Kosovo. Excerpts from Appendix (B):

    7. NATO personnel shall be immune from any form of arrest, investigation, or detention by the authorities in the FRY.
    8. NATO personnel shall enjoy... free and unrestricted passage and unimpeded access throughout the FRY including associated airspace and territorial waters.
    11. NATO is granted the use of airports, roads, rails and ports without payment...
    15. [NATO shall have] the right to use all of the electromagnetic spectrum..."

    http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?articleId=168
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/yugo-a14.shtml
    http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/ramb.htm

    Who created? lets see ... Milosevic, Izetbegovic, Tudjman, Klinton, NWO, ...
    It is easy to point finger to one side and said they are bad guys, and it is easy to put your self to one side and kick some bad esses, in your opinion. But it it mor harde to put you ass bettwen to sides and say stop fight and don't say dat Uncle Sam did this cos i didn't see punishment for Croats, Bosnian Muslims or Albanians. WE GOT ALL BOMBS. And I don't deniel Serbians war crimess but I want thrut not manufactured numbers to blaim only Serbs ( Eny Serb who kill civilian should be killed and I say as a Serb. But I want some one to stand up and say "Yes They are all same Serbs, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, Albanians and some of them commited War Crimes", but I only heard from Serbs mouth "Yes we did it" and from Westerns "Yes Serbs are guilty"), You cant count guilty in percentes
    I was participated in demostrations against Milosevic in 1996 and if we had support of Western countries he wouldn't be a president in 1997 but we didn't had support. In 1999 his popularyti rise WHY? cos NATO bombed Serbia. Cos Westerns countries didn't decided to help us in '96 we had '99, but Westerns decide to help us in '99 by droping some Bombs.
    I live in world of NWO where do you live?

    I'm looking for fackts and you denial a NWO

    During my writing THIS BULL SHIT is Posted.
    AND ONE MORE TIME SERBS ARE GILTY ONE!!!!!! LETS KILL FUC.... SCUMB... WITH OUT SERBS THIS WOURLD BE HEAVEN!!! SO KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

    WELCOME
    HUNTING SEASON ON SERBS STARTED LONG TIME AGO AND IT WILL LAST UNTIL THE LAST STANDING SERB
    LAST STANDING SERB WILL BE REWARED BY PREPARING HIS BODY AND PUT IT IN FREAK MUSEUM

    "I DIDN'T HAD SEX WITH THAT WOMEN" by Bil Klinton :)
     
  7. heartc

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    Some of you wankers wouldn't even be able to post here had it not been for the US (remember, nicey nicey internet invented by evil US, goody goody computer chip invented by evil US?) and had it not been for people on both sides during the Cold War smarter and more decent than you to end it in a decent manner, without nuking the shit out of each other.

    Other than that, I think the Serbs do have a point. I hate their aggressive and hyperbole nationalism which makes them look ridiculous ("SERBIA LANT ON MON, NOT UNITAD STATS" etc., stuff that goes in that direction) but they might have a point regarding what should well have been kept an inner-policy conflict between them and the Kosovo Albanians.
    Seeing that most (all?) of those Albanians are Muslims, and that the current agressive form of Islam is on the rise across the world, trying to regain ground lost during the last few centuries (and this is really just a natural developement, people, nothing surprising, nothing extraordinary, not some conspiracy I'm making up) and seeing how it uses everything it can get its hands on to further that goal - which might include formerly moderate Muslim communities such as Kosovo - (all of this long before 9/11 already, 9/11 was only one other operation in that campaign) the Serbs might have a point.

    I sure as hell wouldn't like to have extremist Muslims take over a state within Germany and claim independence. Might be that the history of Kosovo, or Jugoslavia as a whole, is a long one, and all sides might have wronged each other before, but what counts now is that aggressive Islam is on the rise and consumes everything which even remotely allows for it. That naturally favors communities with a Muslims background, moderate or not. I think the Russians are facing a similar problem with Chechnia.
    It might be that we are not longer at war with each other about details like capitalism or socialism, but about whether we should live in the 21st century, or bow down to / succumb to 15th century Islamic Barbarians.

    Might well be that the West cut into its own flesh there in Kosovo and fought the wrong side.
     
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  8. -cbfs-

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    First of all, the guy who invented the microchip was British. There are also dozens of cases where countries have made a discovery almost in parallel with each other, reaching a solution through several different paths (see recent thread on the radio). Saying that Merkka came along and gave fire to the nations who until then were munching raw deer in their caves is not helping much!

    :D

    Avoiding a nuclear war is common sense, but I have to say, glowing in the dark might have been fun!

    :super:

    Anyway, please continue with your discussion.
     
  9. heartc

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    Well, say that America made it (like many other things) affordable even to Mr. Joe No-One due to mechanics of evil Capitalism (mass production, free market etc)?
     
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    This is actually quite common in movie posters, covers...
    nice movie btw ;)
     
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    Never forget that Merkka had the privilege of not being a smoldering wreck after the war, plus the fact that it is a huge country very rich in 'useful stuff', i.e. not a desert. Failing economically would have been quite an achievement, obviously not the kind you would be proud of. I also saw that you edited the part about bombings - maybe you got carried away there...? ;)
     
  12. jebac

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    jebac aproached heartc and brotherly smacked him in his forehead for that 'aggressive and hyperbole nationalism' etc....
    Serbs will never clame that it was them frist to land on moon. Even having States did that most recently with double shadows and american flag waiving under the wind that doesnt' egzist on the moon.... ehm.... I will not go there.

    Now, now we can go in to + infinity claming many things such as eg 'yeah but where would be your computers, or how tick will be power supply wire if it wasn't for Tesla to discover Alternate Current.... '..... So I will just skip on that advicing you brother do not go there, it is like Kalahary desert at the south of Afrika.

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    Finaly someone with brain, and it wasnt to hard to figure that one out, wasn't it. 2 + 2 can be only 4, not 3 and not 5 and not any variation of x.
    This is egzactly what I have been trying to explain here in most of my posts.
    Those that are not to blind already know that in the very neare future ( what is actualy started witn 9/11, maybe before - bosnia ) there is no more Socialists versus Kapitalists but christianity versus Islam.

    jebac shakes heartc's hand and brotherly pat him on the back, lets have a beer brother.
    :cheers:
     
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  13. Uncles

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    Jebac, economic issues are still greater than religious issues in world politics. What about China? They are still a nominally Communist nation, and they are winning against America in many ways. They are becoming the world power, while America fades. And they stifle their Islamic population ruthlessly.

    So in many ways, MONEY still trumps religion. In fact almost always.
     
  14. jebac

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    You are very true on that one, business was always uber ales.
    On China issue IMHO you shouldn't take 'em as a threat. They are socialist coutnry and they will never undertake oportunistic agresive politic against any nation. And besides they are our Business alies. Now that China could become completely new chapter in all our verbal interactions here. IMHO it will choke west because most of the plants are mooved either there or either to mexico with alot cheaper work force., thus making great manority, owners of those plants much reacher but from the other side mere domestic force ( greater in precentages ) is choking slowly - lack of jobs. etc etc.... you can read, in the news almost every month.... Chrysler, Gm, Simens....
    IMHO on long run religion should take precedence over business othervise it will smack us to our heads in no time if we are not enough clever and careful.
    There is an old saying "Mountain belongs to shepards"
    But let us hope to live long enough and be witneses of what will future winds blow in our faces.
     
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  15. Tzebra

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    You obviously failed to read what I wrote.
    Notice I did state:
    Failed to read it or just didn't want to see it?

    If your people are sick and dying because of some illness, don't look at us. The only DU that we used was in the GAU8 against armored targets, far away from civilian structures. We cleaned up our small mess. If someone else did something then that is outside of my knowledge.

    The only cluster munitons the US dropped was on either open field targets or against 2 airfields. You can youtube the video of 1strike, no civilian targets anywhere near any of the targets; Nice try at propoganda.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIPkG1aAXoU

    Don't think we don't like the UCK terrorist, here is an older video of two of their dumber members who fired on a KFOR position and then attempted to run and hide. They ecountered a German KFOR checkpoint that was waiting for them, and when they first pulled up they fired and attempted to back away. You can see the aftermath for yourself.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFAiWXDQjHs&NR=1

    We are also not blind to the growing Islamic situation.
     
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  16. Tzebra

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    You are correct China is no threat, their relation with us is symbiotic. They provide the cheap labor we provide the paying consumer, a market economy in action. This is benifiting more than just China and the US, Russia is also getting a piece of the deal with China wanting to purchase more military hardware, and other countries wanting to buy Chinese. Tit for tat.

    My only fear is that Christianity and Islam will one day impale each other while the new religion of higher pofit margin takes over.
     
  17. jebac

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    Ok I remember this video and at the time I watched it it said in the car were two durnk serbs! And you are sayin' they were kosovars! A bit confused here what is a real true?
     
  18. jebac

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    Religious confrontation already started, when and how will stop is very predictable tho not desirable... and from the other side we shouldn't fear China, besides Mao Ze Tung whiped up all religions from there.
     
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    They were two UCK members, the type that didn't want to give up their radical ideas or nature. When a KFOR checkpoint attempted to stop them for questioning, they fired on the checkpoint and sped away. Of course you know the road system there, and it wasn't difficult to figure out where they would go since they knew they would be hunted from that point on. They attempted to run and hide and ran into a German KFOR checkpoint which had heard what took place and were waiting on them. When they attempted to stop them they fired on the checkpoint and their fate was sealed after that.

    I have seen drunken Serbs in Kosova, never seen one carrying an AK or AKM around or firing on KFOR checkpoints. Seen one who was drunk and thought he was hunting deer. He was funny to talk to, and even more fun to watch as he attempted to go hunting. We gave him a ride home since he could barely walk and his speech was very slured. Funny man.
     
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    Do the Vietnamese know that, too? Or the Tibetans? Gosh, you really are clueless, aren't you.