Why most of players play on gold side nowadays

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by Jacobe, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. looseleaf

    looseleaf Well-Known Member

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    HA HA Ha...

    Hey, I'm not upset at all! Just sharing my observations, opinions and sugestions; subjective and objective.

    Yes, I KNOW they ALL want to KILL me.

    "They want to kill me...and they don't even know me..."
    Capt. Yosarin in "Catch-22".

    And I want to kill all of them- one at at time!
     
  2. Jacobe

    Jacobe Well-Known Member

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    FH Democracy rules! :D ,lot of thoughts sharing, but nothing happens ever.

    I don't prefer niether side but from the red point of view, few things imho.

    1.The RPS ,fe.x goes that reds fighters have no bombs ,only in few.

    2.Since I liked T&B fights ,now 109 can turn better than before and lost it's RL compression in highspeeds somehow..

    3.Few red planes roll rates have somehow been lowered.

    4.Check the climbspeeds change :)

    5.I liked spit cause i'm a dweeb foreva ,but just bringing in the Spit Vb ,is goo to have so slow plane, and spit9 with cutted wingtips ..should roll faster? yeah! lol

    But,anyhow ,I'dont mind ,I had fun with this game long time before it was slowly kinda ruined ...back to 1.42 would bring back some of the good things, but what the hey.

    -take care all
     
  3. big-jo

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    Only in early war, even in early war the have rockets...

    It has compression, less than spitfires though, and much less than russian planes

    LAs and Yak has the same roll rate than 190 imo
     
  4. Jacobe

    Jacobe Well-Known Member

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    yeah , 1st excuse to bias this game is the talk about 'Historical Data' and 2nd is just to pork planes for own advantage
     
  5. spuint

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    why does this world hate you so much, that even in stupid game its upward the hill for you? :(
     
  6. Tzebra

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    Interesting topic.
    This TOD I have flown on both sides and discovered.

    Early War.
    109E is faster than Spit I and Has 20mm

    Mid War
    109F2 & 4 are better than Spit Vb, P40B/E
    P39 37mm is a joke.

    Late War
    It was like watching a mad rush, everyone grabbing a plane with a 30mm, and simply hosing everything in sight. It was so comical to watch the repeated long-string of Mk108 30mm tracer trails, that I couldn't stop laughing.

    109G14 & K (can't beat it)
    From 0 to alt, nothing can climb as quickly.
    Fast acceleration.

    P51B & D are so porked as to be laughable.
    B25H 75mm has less hitting power than 30mm per individual shot.
    Tank 75mm has less hitting power than 30mm per individual shot.
    Hmack 25mm has less hitting power than 30mm per individual shot.

    Tried them all. Picked an out of the way hangar at F20, and counted the number of hits required (dead center, front of hangar)
    75mm (B25H & Tank) 3 hits at range, 2 to 3 hits point-blank w/tank.
    (2-3 was variable, why is anyones guess at point blank range).
    Mk108 30mm (2 hits)

    75mm versus Ju88 (2 hits, it kept flying)
    75mm versus Ju52 (2 hits, it kept flying)
    30mm versus B17 (1 hit, it exploded)
    25mm versus Ju88 (10 hits, it eventually lost a wing due to G-over).
    25mm versus Ki84 (3 hits, it eventually ran out of fuel and crashed).
    25mm versus 190 (2 hits, it kept flying)
    75mm versus Ju87 (1 hit, he flew away)


    From what I encountered, I would say the reason being is that.
    a.. it is far easier to score kills, and live to tell about it in Gold planes.
    b.. had the feeling that flying a late war gold plane was similar to entering a cheat mode, in that, if you didn't want anything to touch you, nothing could get you as long as you kept your speed and altitude, however if you wanted, you could get everything with 1 to 2 hits.

    My observation and 0.02eu
     
  7. Red Ant

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    Spit XIV should be about equal.
     
  8. big-jo

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    my 0.02?: with 12.7guns you can spray hitting all bullets from d4, someone from d8


    but i agree, i hate seeing tracers of 30 mm , specially from those freaks of 110s
     
  9. airfax

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    Sorry, but that was so uberlistic one sided view that even I can't comment it.

    I'm beginning to have a feeling that FHstaff aka (in some groups) "the evil communistic plot" alters the gold planes FM/DM everytime I enter the arena.

    FIX THE DAMN ARENA!

    (never flown tank zekes, Ki84 that can actually survive anything tougher than 2x7mm, 190 that doesn't loose rear fus when red gives it "the bad eye" or Ju88 made out of titanium.)

    Am I not worth it? (rhetoric question, no need to answer..)
     
  10. FranzAugust

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    If flying spit with 20mm Hispanos theres no need for 30mm
     
  11. reuben

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    @airfax

    Neither have I :)
    No, we are not.

    But, we can yell shredded cheese in finnish...
    and I'd like to see devs top that!

    :D:D
     
  12. looseleaf

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    If this is a valid and unbiased test of the "real situation" of this online game.

    Then it is time to make changes or just to play elsewhere.

    Let those who play gold side play by themselves.
     
  13. spuint

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    yeah you show em
     
  14. bandeirante

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    I agree in absolute with TZEBRA, but need add that roll rate of a B747 is better than spit.
    What will happen to FH when all pilots go to the gold side?
     
  15. Tzebra

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    It was as unbiased as I could achieve during online play.

    I tried to compare the Spit LF against the Ki84, but unfortunately kept being interrupted by wild 30mm spray going everywhere. Even the Ki84 made a run for it!

    The P39 37mm I have yet to give the hangar test, however I was able to chase down a Ju52 at F10, and put (8x 37mm) into the airframe before being chased away. The Ju52 continued on to capture the field.
     
  16. Jacobe

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    Admins hate their own country so much that ,they like better to favor germany, which unfortunally didn't salvate them in ww2? ;) Anyhow ,it's more challenging to play red (even not much players left),since enemy mostly needs only 1 ping to kill and can run away, or climb away and catch you in most every situation. :)

    Why don't they just remove all planes exept russian and germans? Why pork rest of allied planes like those from usa or england? Anyhow ,admins don't give a sht what ppl talk here.Good custom ,haha

    Would be fun to see the specs of all planes here ,f.ex. how they adjust the E-retantion of each plane lol.
     
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  17. gandhi

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    redz: fly spitfeuer or my a6m wil get u

    goldz: fly a6m or my spitfeuer wil get u

    a6m and spitfeuer two best plane in game

    109, 190, tiffie, p-xx and som spitfeuer drivers not know what a hell they ar talkin 'bout

    peeple who say a6m or spitfeuer is pork'd also not know what a hell they talkin 'bout
     
  18. airfax

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    And Ki84 needs only one "ping" from hispano and it dies or loses wing/fus during next turn.

    So is the hispano "porked"?
     
  19. Helrza

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    I WILL FLY RED!!!! AND KILL THEM AAAALLLLLL!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
     
  20. Gunther

    Gunther Well-Known Member

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    Really?