Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

Ales · Feb 11, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

сегодня на B25J бомбил CV F5 поднялись 3 fightera :
первый - orosco полез в лобовую и отгреб
остальные были поумнее и заходили с 6, пришлось повиражить
правда долго климбились и висели у меня на 6 вот и результат
IMHO при грамотной скоростной атаке buff-100% трупп

1:44:58 ales--(Red): DD 57%
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2 in orosco's Eng1 (0.153)
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2 in orosco's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in orosco's Vstab (0.077)
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in orosco's Rfuel (0.077)
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in orosco's R_wing (0.077)
1:45:32 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.157 m in elevator
1:45:32 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.249 m in hstab
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Eng2] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Hstab] by 1x[20_Navy_99_I]
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Rudder] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Vstab] by 2x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:45:32 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.510 m in lwing
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Eng2] by 1x[20_Navy_99_I]
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [L_wing] by 2x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:45:32 orosco(Private): I've hited your [L_wing] by 1x[20_Navy_99_I]
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in orosco's Hstab (0.077)
1:45:32 ales--(Private): I've hit 4x12.7_M2 in orosco's L_wing (0.306)
1:45:51 -HOST-(Common): bilmem <<--Enter the room as Gold
1:45:51 bilmem(Common): Hi all
1:46:07 -HOST-(Host): August 1943 (month 44, day 1)
1:46:20 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Elev] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:46:20 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Hstab] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:46:20 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Rudder] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:46:20 orosco(Private): I've hited your [Rfuselage] by 1x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:46:20 orosco(Private): I've hited your [R_wing] by 2x[7.7mm_Navy_97]
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Hstab (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Cfuel (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Rfuselage (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Cfuselage (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Pilot (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Eng1 (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Cfuel (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Cfuselage (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Nosegun (0.153)
1:46:21 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in orosco's Eng1 (0.153)
1:46:22 -HOST-(Host): Kill of orosco by ales--
1:46:37 ales--(Common): ops
1:46:48 orosco(Common): goosd ottos
1:47:20 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Oil_eng2] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:47:20 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Rfuselage] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:47:20 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [R_wing] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:23 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's L_wing (0.077)
1:47:41 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Rudder] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:41 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Laileron] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:41 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [L_wing] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:49 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Vstab (0.077)
1:47:52 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.393 m in lwing
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Eng1] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [L_wing] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [L_wing] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Flaps] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.262 m in elevator
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Elev] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Elev] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Hstab] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Vstab] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Tailgun] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:52 -HOST-(Private): Bf 109-T1 hited your [Tailgun] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:47:53 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due V-overspeed
1:47:54 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:47:54 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due V-overspeed
1:47:55 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:47:55 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due V-overspeed
1:47:56 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:47:56 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due V-overspeed
1:47:57 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:47:58 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in Bf 109-T1's Rfuselage (0.230)
1:48:00 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:01 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:02 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in Bf 109-T1's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:03 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's L_wing (0.077)
1:48:07 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:07 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Raileron (0.077)
1:48:07 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:08 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's L_wing (0.077)
1:48:10 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:10 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Rfuselage (0.077)
1:48:10 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:10 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Laileron (0.153)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Raileron (0.077)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Rfuselage (0.077)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's Flaps (0.230)
1:48:12 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in Bf 109-T1's R_wing (0.077)
1:48:18 -HOST-(Host): Kill of kajuxi by ales--
1:48:41 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:42 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:43 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:44 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Elev due G-overload
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Oil_eng1] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Lfuel] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [L_wing] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Flaps] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [L_wing] by 4x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:44 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Flaps] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.262 m in elevator
1:48:45 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.281 m in rudder
1:48:45 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.235 m in vstab
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Elev] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rudder] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Cfuel] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rfuselage] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Cfuselage] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Flaps] by 2x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.262 m in elevator
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Eng1] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Elev] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rfuel] by 3x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rfuselage] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Cfuselage] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 -HOST-(Green): Your are near to damaged your Rudder due G-overload
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Eng1] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rfuel] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rfuel] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [R_wing] by 4x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 -HOST-(Damage): you've got hole 0.262 m in rudder
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Rudder] by 1x[20_MG_FF_M]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Vstab] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [R_wing] by 4x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [Raileron] by 1x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:45 bilmem(Private): I've hited your [R_wing] by 3x[7.92_MG_17_syn]
1:48:46 -HOST-(Host): prkchp was killed by Ack Weenies!
1:48:46 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Eng1 (0.153)
1:48:46 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:46 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Eng1 (0.230)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Eng1 (0.077)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Cfuselage (0.230)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's L_wing (0.230)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's L_wing (0.153)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's L_wing (0.153)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.230)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.230)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in bilmem's R_wing (0.077)
1:48:47 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2 in bilmem's R_wing (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Flaps (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in bilmem's Cfuel (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2 in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.230)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2 in bilmem's R_wing (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Rgear (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Cfuselage (0.077)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.153)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.230)
1:48:48 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.230)
1:48:49 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.230)
1:48:49 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:50 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.230)
1:48:50 ales--(Private): I've hit 2x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Oil_eng1 (0.153)
1:48:50 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's R_wing (0.230)
1:48:50 ales--(Private): I've hit 3x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Cfuselage (0.230)
1:48:51 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Cfuel (0.077)
1:48:51 ales--(Private): I've hit 1x12.7_M2_twin in bilmem's Flaps (0.077)
1:48:51 orosco(Common): ashole
1:48:54 -HOST-(Host): Kill of bilmem by ales--
1:48:59 bilmem(Common):
1:49:04 bilmem(Common): :S
1:49:13 ales--(Common):
1:49:44 -HOST-(Host): ales-- was killed by Ack Weenies!
1:49:44 -HOST-(Host): System:ales-- Exploded
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-kum-- · Feb 11, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

И без скоростных труп. С ороско повезно. Двух остальных не знаю.
Спецом наблюдал атаку голда с 6 на мой прямолетящий бомбер. Он начал стрелять с д8 до д4 от меня остались только запчасти. Отто не попал ни разу.

isaev · Feb 11, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

genyse said: ↑

Мне только на Пе-2 удавалось fiter ы сбивать.

А что случилось с зенитками на red CV? Gold fiters летают над CV , как над своим аэродромом и низенько и повыше, и на небольшой скорости. Зенитки палят из всех калибров, так ,что неба не видно, а голд спокойно ведет маневреный бой с 2-мя редами, в течении, наверно, минут 5-ти, не обращая на зенитки никакого внимания , пока его бортовым огнем не завалили.
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Я как раз собирался выложить несколько интересных треков на эту тему, но мне так и не ответили что с проигрывателем и когда его починят.
С ЦВ похоже всё нормально, я специально проверял на том же типе голдовских самолётов, в меня зенитки попадают.

bimbom · Feb 11, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

возьми версию ланчера 1.66 или ранее, там работает

-kum-- · Feb 11, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

Началось . Я тоже с этим вопросом хотел встрять.
ЗЫ:Такой случай был сегодня. Я на Ли-2 подлетаю к полю. Там джип. Кружу. Вдруг джип пропадает и я лечу к полю. Получаю 30-40 из ниоткуда. Сижу втыкаю в экран.
Что это было?

isaev · Feb 12, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

bimbom said: ↑

возьми версию ланчера 1.66 или ранее, там работает
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Так может и на сервере сделать "или ранее", там ведь всё работает?

bimbom · Feb 12, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

это где-то сбой в ланчере

bimbom · Feb 12, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

-kum-- said: ↑

Писец. За сегодня мои отто попали 1х7.6. Просто класс. Все атаки с 6.
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как-то мууми атаковал мой пе-2, с выставленным ац=10. отто даже не чухнулся
никто не мешает пригласить ганнера в аттач иль самому за гашетки встать или файтера позвать

-kum-- · Feb 12, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

bimbom said: ↑

как-то мууми атаковал мой пе-2, с выставленным ац=10. отто даже не чухнулся
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Вот видишь. Грамотным и ас10 нипочём, было доказано ещё в 2001-2002 годах.

bimbom said: ↑

никто не мешает пригласить ганнера в аттач иль самому за гашетки встать или файтера позвать
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Ты ещё скажи где их взять. Да и не выход это. Из-за того, что вы там крутите непонятно что и нет народа.
ЗЫ: как остановить запись трека?

bimbom · Feb 13, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

-kum-- said: ↑

Вот видишь. Грамотным и ас10 нипочём, было доказано ещё в 2001-2002 годах.
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Я с этим никогда и не спорил

Ты ещё скажи где их взять. Да и не выход это. Из-за того, что вы там крутите непонятно что и нет народа.
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Крутим по рекомендации бета-тестеров.

ЗЫ: как остановить запись трека?
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.stop емнип
это не серверная фича

-kum-- · Feb 14, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

радар работает 4 раза в минуту и обнаруженная цель описывается вашим бортовым оператором через вбчат
средние и тяжёлые бомбардировщики получают предупреждение об облучении лучом перехватчика

4).ecm средние бомберы могут подавить радар 2 раза за вылет, тяжёлые - 4 раза.
Не понятен принцип работы радара и его подавление.
bimbom, объясни, пожалуйста, поподробнее.

bimbom · Feb 14, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

исхожу из того, что это прочитано.

1a. перехватчик, если обнаружил цель, получает сообщение:
"Radar contact: 20° left higher at range 14.4 km"
1b. бомбер получает такое сообщение:
"Detect radar radiation"

2a. бомбер бросает ловушки по .ecm:
"Chaff trap released. 1 traps left"
2b. при новом сканировании бомбер получает сообщение:
"Enemy radar jammed. Be off!"
2с. Перехватчик теряет цель, вместо координат у него:
"Radar jammed. Enemy ECM active!"

ловушка действует 1 минуту.

-kum-- · Feb 14, 2012

Re: Обсуждение FHL 1.69.

Ага. Понял, спасибо.

Bobby · Feb 18, 2012

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Люди. Ни у кого не появилось проблем с назначением хатки на джойстике? Вроде все виды настроены верно, но в игре хатка не работает. Точнее переключает виды, но с отпущеной хаткой вижу бронеспинку, вместо боковых видов - назад-вбок.

Alex · Mar 10, 2012

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Граждане, как минами морскими пользоваться? Их кидать как торпеды или как бомбы? И сколько оно там в воде жить будет?

-exec- · Mar 10, 2012

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теоретически как торпеды.
это и должны быть торпеда с нулевой скоростью.

Alex · Mar 10, 2012

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Ага. Теперь понятно. Хотя есть у меня подозрение, что кидали их с несколько более простыми условиями, чем торпеды. Т.е. высота по больше, скорость повыше, по крену ограничения погрубее.
Есть смысл искать правду или пусть так оно и будет?

Alex · Mar 10, 2012

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Вот тут: http://il4.ru/mines/balt.php нашёл:
1942 год начался директивой Наркома ВМФ Н.Г. Кузнецова о минировании ледовых фарватеров в Або-Аландских шхерах и Финском заливе (мина АМГ-1, сброшенная с высоты 200 метров свободно пробивала 80-сантиметровый лед)
Вот всё расписано: http://www.aveaprom.ru/oruzie-asp-amg1.php

-exec- · Mar 10, 2012

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это алгоритмы фронта. оружие может быть классифицировано как что-то ранее известное, но имеющее свои параметры.

параметры включают только баллистику и номера алгоритмов.

прописав алгоритм торпеды, я полагаю, что параметры сброса выбрал именно торпедные

я могу поэкспериментировать, но ничего не обещаю.

isaev · Mar 10, 2012

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В А6М завелись гремлины. Если самолёт как следует разогнать они пугаются и начинают шуметь и дёргать заслонку карбюратора.

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