Esthetically appealing military aircraft - your favourite is........

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  1. RolandGarros

    RolandGarros Well-Known Member

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    arguing the fastest chopper is like arguing the smartest retard
     
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    you are one sick puppy
     
  6. Tzebra

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    Don't worry about Vlamik, he is young and dilluted.
    Islam has for centuries attempted to take over the globe, and each time they end up loosing, their society regressing, while the rest of humanity moves forward.

    Mahmud of Ghaznis and his ancestors attempting to conquer the Indus and everything north, and what was it that his advisors immediately complained about? "All of the scholars, and those with knowledge left, seeking a place outside of Islam where they could thrive." Of course many of his converts who were learned fled, and the dumb ones remained. Now comes the Mongols who actually succeeded in uniting the people. Unfortunately once the Mongol rule was over the Islamics were even worse, because they couldn't keep good people. The learned, who thrived under Mongol rule: "who were very tolerant of other reglions and scientific beliefs", fled the once again rising Islamic city-states.

    The world went forward, progressing, while Islam stayed in the bronze age. Many are still living in that era, with more modern technology and schooling only recently arriving, less than a century ago. What does the Islamics do with the sudden influx of technology, use it to kill, namely themselves, but anyone else who isn't exactly like they are.

    Once again Islam is showing that it has never changed, and will never change, and the world will move forward without them: as it has always done.

    Offended, you should be if you are Islamic. I would personally be pissed that my culture has been too busy blinding itself to reality, keeping itself from the fore-front of science and technology to better itself. Nope, it has to kill for its tribal belief as usual, and the best technology is kept from it, and will one day cease to even be mentioned, as the world moves forward, leaving Islam once again broke, and on its own. History always repeats itself. :@popcorn:

    Isn't history fun. :cool:
     
  7. bizerk

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    Agreed whole heartedly. Live life! and do not be tricked into others visions of grandure.

    <S> tzebra :cheers:
     
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    At least I don't have to offend someone to make a point...:rolleyes:
    Btw, the point hadn't nothing to do with Islam, genius. So, you can take all that bullshit you said and stick it up your bum.
     
  9. RolandGarros

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    is that some soup?
    what parts water, what parts brazilian boy?
     
  10. Vadim Maksimenko

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    Vlamik, you must be absolutely uninformed. Tanks are a smash force, but they don't last too long. In modern battle of two equally developed opponents tank's average life time is... 15 minutes.
     
  11. Tzebra

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    Actually it has everything to do with Islam, since you choose to promote a few vehicles destroyed by Islamics, the rest destroyed by their own crews for a variety of reasons.

    Since you choose to glorify the death of a few attempting to aid Islamics, this would place you squarely in the camp of pro-radical-Islamic.
    Guilt by association. Even South America practices that law. ;)
     
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    The fact of someone attacking an american tank doesn't turn this matter into some sort of "islamic question" (unless you're alienated, and you proved it). As simple as it gets, the point is: people from a country A (defenders) attacking people from country B (invaders) due to this invasion, using very limited resources, doing a considerable damage, no matter of which religion they (people from country A) belong.

    Well, if someone posts a war footage of a german plane in the WWII (like many did here before, even individuals from nations that fought against nazi Germany) it doesn't make him a nazist...%)


    No, apart your logical fallacy, shameful prejudice concerning about my ethnical origin and complete lack of knowledge, here we practice something called objective imputation, that means excluding criminally irrelevant causal chains on the level of the objective elements of the offense definition and thus before examination of the subjective elements of the offense definition. In other words, there's no "guilt by association" thing, but only objective imputation of the guilt, what wasn't the case...;)
     
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    Actually they are not doing much damage at all. The majority of damage done is against themselves. A tank here or there, it's small.

    Let us revist some of your past exploits shall we. A nick-tag with American coffins ring a bell?

    So tell me the difference between someone posting a video, showing a cool battle scene, or a historical moment versus a person who has in-the-past posted flamatory comments, pictures, and even their own nick-tag, and then post a purely Jihadi video.

    What is the difference between the two types of posters?

    There is a difference between exclusion of irrelevant casual chains versus direct association by deeds.
     
  15. gandhi

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    come on peeple

    cheer up and listen to this

    Look at that baby there.
    Blue eyes and golden hair.
    Lovely, gorgeous,
    that's Glorianna.
    Ain't she the image of,
    someone you'd care to love?
    Oh oh. So so. That's Glorianna.
     
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    hey you recorded that from your own record? :)
    (blah what a sentence)
     
  17. looseleaf

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    Let's see.... the title here is:

    " Re: Esthetically appealing military aircraft - your favourite is........."


    so with no other A-10 video or no video of any airplane I would say your posting is has no merrit.

    Why don't you share with us what your are trying to say?
     
  18. Red Ant

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    I've done some research, and the quoted 1,500 M1's is pure bullshit.

    Here's the complete tally as of Jan 07:

    M1A1 denotes M1A1HA, HC or D (AIM); M1A2 is basic or SEP when noted as such.

    Tank; cause and effect; location; source; date
    M1A1; Armbrust s-side nb-skirt, knocked out; Baghdad; official, pictures; 23/08/03
    M1A1; RPG-29 shot through the side, knocked out, sent back to US; ?; US soldier; late 2003
    M1A2; IED, 240-mm mortar, catastrophic (first), 3 KIA, driver WIA; Baquba; official; 27/10/03
    M1A1; IED, catastrophic (second); ?; official; ?
    M1A1; IED, catastrophic (third); ?; official; ?
    M1A1; RPG to side, 1 KIA; ?; official, press; 07/04/04
    M1A1; RPG to turret front, frag/burns to commander/loader, gunner also WIA (?); Fallujah; press, video; 07/04/04
    M1A1; PG-7V s-side glacis, burnt out; Baghdad; press, picture; 10/04/04
    M1A1; multiple RPG hits, burnt out; Sadr City; press, pictures; 17/08/04
    M1A1; RPG attack, burnt out, 1 KIA; Ramadi; official, press; 10/11/04
    M1A1; ambushed on trailer, burnt out; Baghdad; press; 22/11/04
    M1A1; RPG s-side second last skirt, mobility killed; Mosul; press, pictures; 12/02/05
    M1A1; AT mine, mobility killed; outside Fallujah; press, pictures; 11/03/05
    M1A1; AT mine, mobility killed; Fallujah; US soldier; mid-2005
    M1A1; IED, burnt out; ?; video; ?
    M1A1; IED, burnt out; ?; video; ?
    M1A2 SEP; IED, knocked out; Sadr City; US soldier, pictures; ?
    M1A2 SEP; RPG s-side rear-skirt, engine killed; US soldier, pictures; ?
    M1A2 SEP; RPG s-side turret side, commander/gunner WIA from spall; Sadr City; US soldier, pictures; ?
    M1A2 SEP; RPG-29, knocked out; Sadr City; US soldier; ?
    M1A2 SEP; RPG-29, knocked out; Sadr City; US soldier; ?
    M1A2 SEP; AT IED (#1), loss; Sadr City; US soldier 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; AT IED (#2), loss; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; AT IED (#3), loss; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG (#1); knocked out; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG, heavily damaged; Sadr City; US soldier; 2004-2005
    M1A2 SEP; IED or RPG (#10), knocked out; US soldier; Sadr City; 2004-2005
    M1A1; IED, ruptured fuel cell, magazine detonation; Anbar Province; US soldier, picture; summer 2005
    M1A1; IED, knocked out, unknown # of WIA/KIA; ?; US soldier, video; ?
    M1A1; IED, burnt out; Southeast Baghdad; press, pictures; 25/12/05
    M1A1; IED, knocked out, burning; Ramadi; video; 16/12/05
    M1A1; IED, catastrophic, driver WIA; ?; US soldier; ?
    M1A1; IED, burnt out; Eastern Baghdad; press, pictures; 10/03/06
    M1##; IED, gunner paralyzed from severe whiplash; ?; US soldier; ?
    M1A1; AT mine, mobility killed; ?; US soldier, video; ?
    M1A1; IED, mobility killed; ?; video; February 2006
    M1A1; IED, mobility killed; ?; video; 11/04/06
    M1A1; IED, magazine detonation; ?; video, press; 15/09/06
    M1A1; IED, knocked out, unknown # of WIA/KIA; North Baghdad; video; 09/10/06
    M1A1; IED, burnt out; ?; video; ?
    M1A2 SEP; IED, knocked out ?destroyed?; ?; press; mid-2006
    M1A1; IED, ruptured fuel cell, magazine detonation; Fallujah; press, video; 05/01/07

    Knocked out/heavily damaged = Frankentank
    Loss/burnt out = tank heaven

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  19. Red Ant

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    It's just too bad most of the damage they inflict is on their own countrymen. Let's not kid ourselves. This so called insurgency has been going on for how long? 4 years? And during that time they managed to kill about 3,000 'enemy' soldiers? How many of their own civilians have they blown up in the same timespan? Considering that they seem to slaughter several hundred each week in Bagdhad alone ...

    I'm afraid your heroes aren't interested so much in fighting the invaders as in killing each other off over some minor religious differences in opinion, which they seem to do with much more vigor than attacking coalition troops.
     
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    That P-80 evolution, posted earlier, is the T-33, here on that image it might be a variation for air to air refuelling training, usually it has the same nose as the P-80. Here goes a few of my Big Ones (hope i'm not breaking any copyright laws by posting these):

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