Why would 109s escort 110's? the 109 escorts REPLACED the 110's. Only time other fighters escorted 110's is when they were used as "fast bombers" I forgot the german word for it. Much like the hurricane- its popularity faded and it was left as a more than adiquate buff killer. Auttos are ridiculous- especially on pe2,db3f, and pe8 bombers.
Get off ya fat arse and try flying a buff for a few TOD's not just one or two missions... Pe8 otto's are just right...It makes the fighter think about how they can get the kill without getting killed just like in RL...And before you start use your brain if ottos were so bad they would not have been on the bombers they would have been trained to fly escorts...Why kill 7 or 8 people in one aircraft when you could have 3 in the bomber and 4 or 5 escorts ....
Spoken like a true red pilot. If ju88 auttos were half as good as pe2's maybe golds could win the map a little more often. But kanga knows all about fat "arse"s. Flying red couldnt be easier- can you say "every other fighter has rockets"? And not just those that blow up at d18...onces that always make it to target. The i15 especially- so far we have found only one squad that used rockets on i15's in ww2 and it was less than 30 planes. So why dont golds atleast get mk103 cannon?
Because it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars and takes at least few months to train a fighter pilot, not to mention costs of building and operating a fighter plane; training of aerial gunner is much shorter, cheaper and simplier, and you can take just anyone to serve as one. Gunners were there to scare off fighters and sometimes (but very seldom) they did score kills but the truth is that without fighter escort any bomber (or buff formation) - from ju87 to a fucking B29 - WAS an easy prey to any fighter. And if you claim that it was otherwise - quote any historical source that will confirm that. Allsop - Hs123 was an attack plane, not a fighter .
It was a biplane dive bomber- but It could be used as a fighter with the option of the mgff cannons in the wing pods. Kinda like i15 blows balls IRL but with the addition of russian modeling and rockets its a beast.
Hehe, people don't talk about planes like the P-39, P-40, 110, etc., after 1941 because they were obsolete. No sane person would want to fly a 110 except as a night fighter by 1943. At least that was the Luftwaffe's point of view
Interesting- same for the i153, yet in fH its a king into 1943...very hard to kill and very destructive. The p40 was under powered, and the p39 just flat out wasnt a very good plane....The kingcobra took the good and added to it....But the p39 more than fairs well in FH even though in real life the a6m spanked it down all day long.
I suppose the thought of strafing troops and all can't enter your brain... It just had to be a fighter with those cannons!
I agree with you on this. But, of course, WB is not reality. I never fly that biplane if I can help it. It's been interesting to watch how the models evolved in the original WB and in FH. In the end, this is just a game -- but a great game, no matter what. That's why I keep coming back. It's really cool that we get to play for free, too. Gotta give the developers props
@allsop 1) I-153's. I-15 is a different plane. And I-15 could carry rockets. 2) Where do you keep getting that "30 planes"??? Images I have are from 71.Fighter Regiment, and I really think that a russian regiment is bigger than 30 planes..... airfax
Then please post sited information showing this suposed russian squad. In my books- none of them mention rockets being availible for the i15"3" "there dont cry anymore- i know the difference between the two". And on any online search the tearm i15/3 and rocket are virtually non existant in the same post....So please- data. As far as the hs123. The mgff has poor ballistic and ROF qualitys- not really a good gun for strafing. Kinda like wgr21cm rockets being used for a2g attacks. Reds bitch that it isnt what the rocket was ment for, but could it escape YOUR brains that if it goes "boom" in the air that it would most likely go "boom" on the ground? p39's 37mm cannon was almost entirely useless for a2a combat against fighters, it was desighned by oldsmobile to allow the fighters to sit way back and bark big lobbing shells out at bombers....But here in WBFH, the 37mm cannon is quite effective in a2a against fighters. The 37mm flak on ju87's- ment for tank busting "does no good against tanks here in FH" also makes it a very aggressive fighter. cbfs.....I really dont understand what goes on in your head because it makes very little sense to me. Please gather data not just half assed attempts to shut me down.
Note also the bold type. When was the last time you flew I153 at 440 km/h in FH? All sites I have visited which mention rockets state 6 rather than 8 pointy things that fly through the air under their own power, then go boom when they hit something which is hopefully what they were aimed at in the first place. regards, Oz
ju87 and early ju88 has only 7mm ottos, they are quite deadly, but not too much. Pe2, B25 and TBF has 12mm ottos, they are enormous deadly. Bf110 was using against day bombers until long ranged cover ruins his attacks. Ar 68 E-1? biplane? Hs123 dive bomber, ju188 night fighter, but OK. BTW, THX admins for chutes, nice to see it.
Since you asked, I went and did tests in MA. Here are results:- Alt(m) IAS TAS Fuel SL 377 377 100%** 1000 368 388 100%* 2000 358 397 80%* 3000 347 404 70%* 4000 340 418 60%* 5000 326 423 50%* 6000 311 426 30%* 7000 292 422 20%* 8000 274 420 10%* 8500 266 417 50%** * Test flight 1 ** Test flight 2 All tests at 100% throttle. Also tested climb - 9.5min to maximum ceiling of 8550m (AT @ 30deg from TO). In dive @ 100% throttle reached 803km/h, after uncontrolled climb starting at 700km/h. Regained control by reducing throttle, no damage to aircraft. LG has nil effect on airspeeds, and withstood damage at max speed at all levels (didn't test in dive). LG extend below 280km/h. Only tested turn rate at 8400m, 23.5sec for full 360 flat turn. I don't know what optimum level is for turn, but best turn rate from all sites is 8 sec/360. But I believe this was lowered to reduce warping. regards, Oz BTW...sorry all for OT.
THX ozemale, i153 lack 14km/h to max speed 440 km/h, it is not so much. OT? not OT, i153 is like 4x7mm otto (somebody said it on FHF before me) I don't believe that I153 was so uber. Climbs near like A6M3 and turns like helicopter. I must test it in fight in MA.
The I153 does have a (quite unbelievable) RL turn rate. Same as Oz, the only data I could find consistently said 8 secs. It's just its DM that needs looked at a bit.
@allsop I honestly don't understand why I should prove that you're claims are wrong with "sited facts", since you haven't shown any facts ,or sites for that matter, to prove that you're right. You keep saying that sites you visit claim that I-153's don't carry rockets, and yet you don't even make a link to those sites. Why should I bother myself to do your job? Make a point, prove the point, and after that you can demand others to do the same. google this : 71 IAP-KBF (regiment I was talking about) and check these sites : http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/i-153.html http://airwar.iatp.by/rkka/dat_i153.htm Apparently you keep visiting the wrong pages..... airfax
imprsions of i-153 in flight. couldnt find thesight i had with the loadout and specs of all i-15 type fighters
