Disgusting behavior...shame

Have witnessed blatant anti-American talk on main radio channel.I dont care if you hate the USA, but to laugh and rejoice in the murder of American and visiting forieners in the Sept 11 massacre is more than I am able to put up with here on my free time.
I choose not to spend my free time with such class-less haters. This USA is not perfect and we make mistakes and have killed innocents. But we do not target civilians and most Americans are appalled when our military makes a mistake that kills civilians. The avg. American worker has been taxed for years for the funds to send aide,food, medicine etc. to the neediest people all over the world. Thats the part you US haters may not realize. Hell all of Europe AND England would now be under Soviet control but for the Billions of US aide and military power to keep Nato strong enough to have deterred them. And only by breaking the Soviets financially through the decades long arms race, are those countries now free to rule themselves. And some choose to rejoice in our sorrow?! God forbid they ever really put American will to the test. Personnaly I rejoice in the sorrow and pain of no-one from any nation. But push me to my limits... I just need not to spend my free time with such people as may bring out the worst in me.
I am disgusted at the rejoicing of dead innocents
I hope 1 day World peace
I have enjoyed my time with most of you here in WBFH

Farewell, By-Tor (proudly American)

 

[Edited version of] Don't read this

An aircraft carrier costs as much as one thousand municipal hospitals.

 

Easy boys...You're hot headed here. Let's not start another flame about US foreign policy.

Doesn't really mater the US foreign policy, what by-tor bought up was:

That's a disrespect to those people and shouldn't happen again under any circustances.

 

the idea of socialism isnt bad.

too bad power corrupts

as fla said it - take it easy. this topic can be really offensive sometimes.

 

By-Tor, first of all you don´t have to defend yourself or your country here as if put on trial, especially not in that context. Those human beings who find satisfaction in what happened on September 11th do have a seriously ill point of view of what´s right, what´s wrong and what is simply a crime. An attack targetting civilians in any part of the world IS a crime, was a crime and will ever be so and those who can find joice in those actions join the band of the most mislead minds ever.

My sorrow is with the victims and their relatives from Sept 11th, and those who lost their lifes while trying to save those of others.

heartc

 

living in WB-time:

1945: some handsome pilots flew over soviet zone of occupation and dropped food, etc. over berlin.

thx

 

Whatever govenments do, its no excuse to judge individuals.

Politics get easily involved in these multicultural communities. They have no place here I hope for me and others to realize it.

 

I will not talk about foreing policy and many things of what by-tor said because i consider him a victim of an evil system, blinded from the truth.

Going back to the main topic... those racial slurs came from this pilot from the Senta a Pua Squadron, the same who attacked me few months ago only because of my nationality.
I wonder how this Brazilians are still letting him fly in the group, considering that they use a serious squadron with historical background.

By-tor, try to talk to the CO or XO of that squad and let them know, about "banzai".

 

The ORACLE proclaims...

Any kind of racial or nationality-based offence is an evidence of sexial disabilities for all times. Ever! All who were attacked in the manner, take the mentioned above into cosideration and behave properly If a man is eager to make his problems with the opposite sex public, don't jugde him to harsh He is to be punished by God: either to commit suicide, or to become gay

Remember that and don't "loose your face"

 

I do totally agree with the above.
I am apalled of the joy some people show.

How apalled are Americans in general about the civilian
casualties and how apalled specifically are they
about the civilian casualties in Afganistan?
I am NOT trying to insult You. I am just asking
your opinion.

Personally I make no difference between those
civilians in NY and those in Afganistan.

You may not realize, but the average European
(and Finnish too) worker has also been taxed
for the same reason.

This is a bit more difficult question for
Europe in general, but at least Finland would
have been Wayyy better off without all the
lend-lease stuff shooting at us up till mid -44.

If there ever was a real U.S. purpose to help
small countries, that surely did not show,
when peace terms were settled for Finland.

What U.S. has been able to do in Europe with
utmost success, is to have secured her OWN interest,
both political and military ones.

(For the Arms race, the target was to win USSR
for the US sake, not for the European sake.
The latter was a pure by-product)

That is not a bad target for the U.S. gorvernment.
However that is not exactly the same thing as
helping the needy people unselfishly.
Some times it is good to see the both sides of the coin.

Best Regards

 

How in hell could be a God's punishment to "become gay", I think that's another short-minded point of view, we're all free to choose our sexual preferences, and "God" (if there's really one up there, wich I don't think...) has nothing to do with the way we understand and choose sex.

If "kind of racial or nationality-based offence" is to be "forbidden", then sexual offence should be too....

@By-tor: man, I'm all but an "U.S. lover", I could say I don't like the way your country acts towards the rest of the world, but I am with you now. No real human being could laugh at what happened in NY. Violence sux, I love to argue with U.S. people here in Spain (I have some friends from the U.S.A.), but I think that in every discussion we must not forget about respect, and violence only makes things worse.....

I hope one day we won't be able to tell the difference between "civilian" and "soldier", because armies would have disappeared.

S!

 

Lieutenant Colonel Hotsea (1° Gp.A.v.C.a Senta a Pua )

I apologize for the occurrence of these facts. As I didn't witness him happened I am acquiring information little by little.

Firstly I apologize to the spaceb that is of a nationality sister Brazilian, unhappily some people think different, and as consequence speaks things that are not suitable to the public knowledge. Excuses spaceb.

Already as for the initiate terrorism on September 11 again I apologize. As they prepare said above we are a squadron with historical emphasis, without our Americans compatriots they would be never in the war only P47. Unhappily this if it turns reality here, and unhappily I will have to take administrative punishments before the pilot.


Sincere excuses for all the pilots involved in this unhappy discussion.

I guarantee that that will never again happen.

Thank you!

 

I feel so sorry about you guys that take offense from such stupid people. I tell you the best answer is the silence, ignore.
You guys, mainly spaceb take everything too serious, sometimes you act like a little poor girl.
Sometimes i understand ya...sometimes..

Now for some brazilians acting stupidly, i noticed it and be sure that they are ignored and fired by the our *good guys*. We shoot them down as much as we can

As for banzai, man.. this is the most hated name between the WB brazilian comunity. As for the squadron that uses the historical brazilian squadron name in WW2 i feel sorry and sad for that. Coz these guys from this squadron are all really really NUTs. If i could do something, the first thing was to delete that squadron and send all pilots to afghanistan caves.

Just ignore and forgive these guys, they dont deserve a shit of atention. Just kids, little kids... stupid kids.

 

Salute all...


Great Natedo !!! Wtg Hotsea... this all being a great misunderstanding....

Salute all

 

byt, my friend, please stay on. i have known you virtually for a long time now. and i understand what you are going through. i had a few idiot pilots say the same things to me. i left for a short time. please just take a break. you and cobraj are the founders of elite. and we need you. and personally i like flying with you and chatting etc. i myself have learned quite a bit from you. and i am also glad to see you in here more regularly again. please just use the .ignore command. FH i have known bytor for quite sometime now. he is a true patriot! as am i. our country is not always correct and imperfect. the u.s. does alot of the worlds policeing. quite possible we should stop, and see where it goes?? but, quite possibly alot might not like the consequences. i am not a political person nor do even like politics. but i can tell you this. if any of your lifes were in trouble and i was thier and could help out . i (and i know by-tor also) would do my best to help you. and if i were thier at the wtc and seen any of you. even banzai, needing help. i andany of elite in sure, would do so without a blink of an eye! you can count on that. so please banzai and anyone else. bite your tongue and tell it to your local friends and relatives of your hatred. but do not bring it here!! i get pissed off from time to time at pilots in here. but i would never wish death or torture to anyone. sad that this had to be said

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i think the one who said the junk will feel well if you leave.

stay, and show you are stronger than him.
next time he tries to say something stupid, laugh in his face. it will make you feel better

 

Thanx for the kind words. Nicae,If this were an isolated incident from a single individual or 2, I would surely let it go. In fact the first 2 times I was online for such incidents I did indeed keep my mouth shut. No easy task for me I assure you
But each time the 'remarks' starting, and someone challenged such things as disgusting and idiotic...to my amazement the majority of comments on channel 100 were in SUPPORT of the idiots... 'they got what they deserved etc.'
I put the first 2 incidents of this (months apart) behind me. This last offense, I just cant stomach being in comunication (even if it is only in text) with such hatred.The only satisfaction I can take is the knowledge that standing before me in person, not a word would have been dared. I harbor no ill will, and I forgive the offense, but I choose not to remain in such company in my spare time.
<S> all men of good heart

 

ill be hoping all good people who leave will come back someday.. cya then, bytor! at least i hope!

 

"You guys, mainly spaceb take everything too serious, sometimes you act like a little poor girl."

$%# you haupt

how would you react if someone attacks you saying that if he had a chance he will kill you in RL?

you better appology, those comments are out of place.

 

First of all: Please, what does $%# means?


How would i react if someone attacks me saying that would kill me in RL?
That way: .ignore


Here is my apologize: Spaceb chicken!!!! Spaceb chicken!!!!

You are soooo buh buh bah bah, mmmoommmyyy buh buh bah bah.