New He-111 3d-model proposal

Admins are horrible about getting back to me about how things are going or what their even thinking... BW just tells me he dont speak english

 

i passed all datel's models to sonar. he is working with green on lw-wb conversion problem.
you can pm to sonar about specific questions o graphics.
for now i see that you drawn only 1 model. wb model actually includes up to 4 models with varying number of polygons. wb uses most complicated models at close distances and most primitive models at farthest. plus one model visible from pilot and one model for shadow.
it's not as simple as one can think.
imho he-111 model displayed imho is worth for model for d4-d8, but it has too many polygons for such a distance.

 

ah, one more thing.
spindl, you can draw as many models as you want for your own fun, but not all would be needed for the game.
contact --bw-- for priorities for models you want to be in the game.
cr.42 is just allsop's yell.
we did not planned fiat falco before we make more important types.

 

And there you have it spindl

In short, PM sonar for the technical aspects.

PM --bw-- for details on the projects that they will consider implementing now.

 

The Fiat CR.42 is just my "yell"? But the ki27 was........???

Im sorry, but FH staff might be drinking way to much....

What does it take to try to get a little plane that actaully MIGHT do something for the game?

Do I have to wipe someones ass too?

 

Exec, thank you! I appreciate your answer, this clarifies a lot of confusion here. I will start working today on the 4 models. Expect a follow up with pics on this shortly. I have actually been able to get a sample file from franz with hurricane sample files. Thank you franz, I'm glad I have this one out of the way so far. I will also remodel he111 with less polygons. I should be able to finish this by tommorow.

 

Maybe give golds something better than a biplane...import the Dr.1 from DOA

 

Man,

Good work, maybe you with your great work, can put more and more players on warbirds... lets wait now, leave you do your work, and wait for adm`s. Now we will know if they dont put more planes on wb for lost off intrest or really because they dont have a designer.... buddy, good lucky on this models....

Rafael
Banzai

 

I have chose some types what would bring new variability to FH. To question "why we need these planes when we have similar" - i answer: at least for the scenarios or coop events.

here are some interesting and usable types:

Arado Ar234
Avro Lancaster
Bf109 B2,C1,D1,H1
Bristol Blenheim
Bristol Beaufighter
CA-12 Boomerang
DB-3
Dewoitine D.520
Do 17,217
Douglas DB-7
Fairey Barracuda
Fairey Firefly
Fiat G.50, G.55
FW 190 A6,A9
FW 200
Handley-Page Halifax
Hawk 75
He 111
He 219 UHU
Henschel 129
Kawasaki Ki102
Mitsubishi JM2 Jack
Marcel Bloch 152
Morane-Saulnier MS.406
Pe-8
Reggiane Re 2000-2005
SB-2
Tu-2

 

THANK GOD! SOMEONE FINALLY UNDERSTANDS THE NEED FOR EARLY WAR GOLD PLANES! THANK YOU PGMONSTER.

The Fiat CR.42 would be my first pick as the mc200 was IMHO not all that great and the mc202 would replace it in short fashion but im not sure of that....

Try to help if you could

 

i answered you that time. folks confirmed it with more verbose comments. it was not enough?

 

IMHO:
RedBull>here are some interesting and usable types:
RedBull>Arado Ar234
microscopic priority

RedBull>Avro Lancaster
could be interesting, but it's night bomber.

RedBull>Bf109 B2,C1,D1,H1
spain? have no i-16/5 and i-16/10 here, as well as no cr.32 chirry, no i-15 chato, no sm.79 sparviero.

RedBull>Bristol Blenheim
too light for the game

RedBull>Bristol Beaufighter
sonar going to make that. displayed lightwave models

RedBull>CA-12 Boomerang
huh? zulu? aztecs?

RedBull>DB-3
will be almost alone of the period

RedBull>Dewoitine D.520
1940 only... could be passed to axis then?

RedBull>Do 17,217
not the same plane.
though 17emil could be used for spain, and zurich for bob.
217emil is 1942.

RedBull>Douglas DB-7
boston? 1940. night bob usage. that's bad. soft-graphics don't have night.

RedBull>Fairey Barracuda
not principal role in the war.

RedBull>Fairey Firefly
not principal role in the war.

RedBull>Fiat G.50, G.55
duplicated by c.200 and c.205. why italians made the same thing twice/triple?
re.2000 is worse than it's concurents c.200 and g.50

RedBull>FW 190 A6,A9
a6 online
a9 how many manufactured? rps=1month betweeb a8 and d9?

RedBull>FW 200
naval patrol? what for? or boring fhcv hunting?

RedBull>Handley-Page Halifax
night bomber. that's all.

RedBull>Hawk 75
1940 only. out of the game before rps starts (1940/VII). db-7 too.

RedBull>He 111
111berta"pedro" or "heinrich"?

RedBull>He 219 UHU
night?! oh no!

RedBull>Henschel 129
87gustav is better imho

RedBull>Kawasaki Ki102
could be ija46 flame matter. prefer ki45kaib

RedBull>Mitsubishi JM2 Jack
j2m. both models 21 and 33. i'd say obligatory.

RedBull>Marcel Bloch 152
RedBull>Morane-Saulnier MS.406
vichy? no france in time

RedBull>Pe-8
next release probably

RedBull>Reggiane Re 2000-2005
re2000 is low serie crap. mostly sweden and magyar.
re2001 is low serie crap.
re2002 is low serie crap.
re2005 is good but fantastic. say luft46. i'd like too se that. but the flame is going.

RedBull>SB-2
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2676

RedBull>Tu-2
hight velocity bombers only in pack ki-67, ju 88s, a-26c

 

I dont argue about what type is/isnt important (have "priority"), i have offered piece of variability and interest. Its useless discussion when we have different points of view, so only one more round by me with chosen types:

RedBull>Arado Ar234
Exec>microscopic priority
priority in relation to what? What is most/less important aspect in assignign priority to the types of planes? Who deciding?
By what aspect have given priority to e.g. Ki-27?

RedBull>Avro Lancaster
Exec> could be interesting, but it's night bomber.
Its not. Maybe RAF had been flying more in night - but this doesnt mean Lancaster hasnt been flying in the day. There are lot of daily operations e.g. 617 or 9 Sq.

RedBull>Bristol Blenheim
Exec> too light for the game
Major RAF bomber type in early war years - basic type for the French, Norwegian, North African and Mediterranean campaign.
BTW for nice Mediterranean area the CR42 and e.g. Gloster Gladiator are important.

RedBull>Dewoitine D.520
1940 only... could be passed to axis then?
why not? Its beautiful plane. BTW why do you asking in another thread about FM data for

RedBull>Do 17,217
Exec> not the same plane.
though 17emil could be used for spain, and zurich for bob.
217emil is 1942.
i know it, just an example of one main type of LW bombers.

RedBull>Douglas DB-7
Exec> boston? 1940. night bob usage. that's bad. soft-graphics don't have night.
neg - have used often in major part of the daylight "Circuses" over the French coast and during the Allied invasion 1944

RedBull>Fairey Barracuda
Exec> not principal role in the war.
principal for Royal Navy operation - European and Pacific area

RedBull>Fairey Firefly
Exec> not principal role in the war.
same as in previous case

RedBull>Fiat G.50, G.55
Exec> duplicated by c.200 and c.205. why italians made the same thing twice/triple?
Just give axis one more interesting and very well type. Maybe they made triple - but they made greatly.

RedBull>Hawk 75
Exec> 1940 only. out of the game before rps starts (1940/VII). db-7 too.
Essential for the French campaign. This important era is totaly ignored on FH.

RedBull>He 111
Exec> 111berta"pedro" or "heinrich"?
come on...

RedBull>Henschel 129
Exec> 87gustav is better imho
there are bunch of 87s and nobody fly them...

RedBull>Marcel Bloch 152
RedBull>Morane-Saulnier MS.406
Exec> vichy? no france in time
Essential for the French campaign. This important era is totaly ignored on FH.


RedBull>Reggiane Re 2000-2005
Exec> re2000 is low serie crap. mostly sweden and magyar.
Exec> re2001 is low serie crap.
Exec> re2002 is low serie crap.
Exec> re2005 is good but fantastic. say luft46. i'd like too se that. but the flame is going.

North African and Mediterranean campaign.

RedBull>SB-2
Exec> http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2676

i neednt explanation, SB-2 (Avia B-71) was prepared for licenced series in Czechoslovakia close before WWII, so well known for me...

 

Just a doubt..

-exec- , now you are the man of priority on this game? buddy, this are for fun, and priority are the fun off pilots, your aswers for the rebull planes are honestly ridiculous, soo because Lancaster was used more at night, we shouldn`t made them? AR-234, intresting bomber, because you think that isn`t a priority we dont should do that too? in your opnion, what we should do? seat and wait no ones more play warbirds? leave the game how they is? if we have people intrested in progress of game, let them do! let`s made this game more fun, with less unrealible russian planes, and more fun....

Rafael
Banzai

 

Ki27 was biggest joke in game as far as "principal"..........someone just must have had way to much time on their hands.

 

What interests me, is that we were just told that major wartime planes like the lancaster and He 111 wont even be looked at to be included cause of night usage, or other reasons, but we have the 109T? im confused

 

or how about the 30mm 110-c4?? it was a night fighter used primerily to intercept buffs. Intrestingly its also supose to have two 20mms by cockpit shooting up on 60% angle so it can hit buffs srom a safe low six instead of more dangous lvl 6 aprach.

 

THX exec to answer.

You are FH developers and you decide how plane has priority, but:
-h 75 was using in pacific islands against japanese fighters.
-boomerang is australian fihgter
-benheim is imho good early war bomber

and some other planes:

-westland whirlwind-interesting early war heavy fighter
-fairley battle-early war light fighter
-imho Spitfire Va is interesting too.

but you have final say, and you have all my respect for doing freehost free.

Ki-27 is much better, that everybody think. It's good early war climber and after changes in gunnery model...?