Planes that I hope to fly someday in FH...

What planes would you like to see eliminated to make all these fanciful wishes comes true?

 

I really prefer SM.79 instead of Ju-52.
More ottos and more ordnance, higher speed, better plane at all.

This P-38 thing is gettin me sad..
Why can't all P-38 stay and Ki-43 be removed to place Ki-48? Or Ki-45?
IMO ppl here uses much more the P-38s than the Ki-43...


PLANES I WISH TO BE REMOVED:
1) Ki-27
2) I-153
3) Ki-43
4) Bf-109T-1
5) D.520
6) Hurricane IIB
7) P-39D-BE
8) N1K1-J and N1K2-J (useless since they aren't good as they were... and autopilot is always drunk )
9) MiG-3 (all)
10) Seafire L IIC
11) UFO D )
12) IL-2 Production 1941

Since the most of them no one uses...

 

Big tnx to Exec for this list.

supporting:

hurricane 2b removal
ju52 change for s.79
ki45
removal of seafire and 109 t
removal of F4U4 ( only if g10 is removed too)
removal of i153 and ki27

dont support:

removal of any P-38
removal of ki-43
any new yak model

Suggestion :

Remove Tempest
Remove G10 ( then F4U4 )
tunne dwn speed and turn of KI-84
tunne dwn F4u's turn ability
Remove KI-44
Remove G14r4 variant with 3xmk 108
Remove spit 5B or 5C
Remove LA5fn?!
Remove spit 9 or 9lf
remove hurricane 2D
Remove ki-44 40mm
fix speed of spit 2 or spit 5
fix F6F

RPS suggestions:

cut the time between 38F and 38J

other suggestions:

Current game has too many spits, hurricanes, mb even Las.
Try not to add any new yak model.

 

Why not make X launchers? What I mean is divide a TOD into, say, 3 parts, each part with it's own FHL and it's own inventory.
I bet ya that would be easy for anyone who knows how to click a mouse to get to used.
Instead of this or that being the IP number, you would have a this or that + another this or that for IP number + Launcher version.

 

Here's a list of planes I think could be removed provided there are replacements.


Ki-27
I-16 Type 28
I-16 Type 29
Hurricane I
Spitfire Ia
B5N2
Ju 87B
Ki-27

I-16 Type 28
F4F-3
Spitfire IIa
P-40B
LaGG-3
MiG-3 type 1
MiG-3 type 2
Yak-1
Bf 109T-1
P-39D
A6M3
Fw 190A-4
Seafire II
P-39Q
Me 410A
N1K1-J
P-51B
FM-2
Me 410B
Ki-84-Ia
Yak-3
Fw 190F-8

 

Items of note from above:

-He wants to keep both Spit 9s (despite other picks he made to remove redundancy)
-Wants to remove the A6M variant that fares the best against the Spit 9 (A6M3)
-When he says "provided there are replacements," I wonder what he means in the case of removing 2 P-39s...
-No changes to the La5/7 series, even though there is redundancy...
-Wants Ki-84 gone...
-Wants to keep his I153, but listed the Ki27 for removal twice

 

-Why not get rid of Hurricane II D? It's just a masturbation plane anyway. -Can anyone tell the difference between Spitfire Mk I and Mk II?
-What are the main advantages between P-39D and P-39D-2 other than one's from US and other flown mainly by Russia?
-What exactly is the purpose of the MiG-3?
-I can't remember the last time I saw a N1K, can you?
-Fuck adding another Yakolev to the already too long list of them.
-Only use for Ki-27 is to hunt I-153, but nobody uses it for that either.
-How many La-5 models do we need?
-Is Ju-87G-1 a masturbation plane or do golds actually use it for something else?
-Can we get the ball turret back in the B-24?
-How many Pe-2 do we really need?

*Masturbation plane is just something with a big gun that people needed a towel for after seeing it appear in RPS, flying it once, and never using it again.

 

Talking in general here. But Looseleaf's list was the one that popped out most.

The only MiG in the game will never be removed. Neither will the P-39Qs, the Yak-3's. It would also be a shame to see the Seafire II or the Niki go.

The 109T-1 I agree is a stretch. Especially considering the Germans never got to use it. Then again, it was added to even out the sides a bit when it comes to naval fighters... but it still kinda sucks.

Removing the Ki-84 and the Ju-87 would seriously detract from the game.

Almost all the planes that are suggested here are much less important historically speaking than the planes on that list. Really, you can found the Aeronautica Militare, and you can join the guys of Regio Aeronautica or what was their squadron... but in the end these planes will still have played a small role, and won't carry the same weight the 109, 190, P-51, P-47, P-38, Zero, La-7 etc names do.

No good plane should go because of some shady variant of a plane here or there. I'm all for adding the right plane, but adding a Heinkel 111, when there is already a Ju-88. Same with having a Do-17Z. They'll just be planes that aren't flown. The argument of "better vision in the cockpit" doesn't hold any merit either, considering the standard bomber cockpit is a B-17 cockpit, and I doubt the plane will be released with a custom cockpit ready to go.

BTW, Mumble
Ju-87G in the past, when timers were different (when it was a flat 1200s reup for anything) were great field closers. I presume it's also how the plane was used at iEN. Not to mention it turned quite well and generally was a fun bizarre little plane to throw into a furball.

Also, the A6M3 should never go. It's the best of the zekelings.

May I also point out that maybe the Italian air force is underrepresented because they were underrepresented in the war? Most planes in the RPS have been fielded by multiple countries, in multiple variants, and more importantly have fought in multiple battles.

Reminds me of when people were nagging for a P-47N or M and stuff.

TL;DR
Yes, my post is all over the place, there's zero structure to it, deal with it.

-Z

 

I'm pretty sure my B-24 should have one of these ball turret thingies.

 

you do have

That said, I'm not at all convinced that deleting any one of the 3 Lightning versions in the game is a good idea.

as far as i understood from Joe Baugher J-25-LO is better than L-5-LO in all aspects or at least not worse.
also J-25-LO has boosted ailerons along with dive flaps.

that's strange since nobody said that airframe is different.
probably developers mistake, and probably ien's ones.

Baugher: «The 1290 P-38L-1-LOs were similar to the P-38J-25-LOs except for the new engines.»
engines have 1250hp at take-off rather than 1200hp. could 2*50hp change top speedsa dramatically?
Baugher: «The 2520 P-38L-5-LOs had submerged fuel pumps and, after the unsatisfactory testing fourteen five-inch HVAR on zero-length launchers beneath the wing outer panel, underwing rocket "trees" for ten five-inch rockets were mounted. The racks underneath the wing center sections were strengthened to enable either 2000-lb bombs or 300-US gallon drop tanks to be carried.»

the ideas was...
we have P-38F-5-LO, 1942-08, no rox, no boosted ailerons, no dive flaps.
we have P-38J-15-LO, 1943-12, M8, no boosted ailerons, no dive flaps.
we have P-38L-5-LO, 1944-07, HVAR, boosted ailerons, dive flaps,

new airplane:
date P-38J 1943-12, 55FG
graphics P-38J or P-38L
flight performance P-38L-5 (dive brakes, boosted ailerons)
weapon P-38L-5

so
we would have P-38F-5-LO, 1942-08, no rox, no boosted ailerons, no dive flaps.
we would have P-38J-25-LO, 1943-12, HVAR, boosted ailerons, dive flaps,

in fact you just get P-38L-5-LO in 43-12 instead of 44-07 and instead of P-38J-15-LO.

Baugher: «The P-38L was produced in two blocks.»
there is no "later l models", there were L-1-LO and L-5-LO only.
clearing is an operational measure, not industrial.
btw, what was previous engine boost and the boost cleared later?

golds already have many planes granted. and moving quite heavy 38L to 38J-date is not like moving LF9Merlin66 to 9Merlin61-date or Tempest to Tiffie-date.

offtop: for some reason all lightning fans hide date of intoduction of J-25-LO...

anyways, if you say that you object to this measures, we will search for another slots.

 

ehm... list is not readable. remove Fw 190 A-4?
could you specify replacement for Fw 190 A-4 and all other planes?

 

My opinion about add/remove planes

Remove
1. Ki-27
2. Hurr-2b (but if add Soviet subversion 2xShVAK+2UBK, plane may be interesed, but - we have hurr2c)
3. 109t
4. Seafire... may be
5. P-39D (one from two)

MiG's cannot be removed, it's basical soviet fighter on start war.
Il-2-41 to very important.
i-153, can be removed, but i disagree
N1K1-2, good planes, but have problem - bad guns
UFO cannot be removed, it's iEn restriction IMHO

 

you have picture of 24J probably 24H.

«Beginning with B-24D-140-CO serial number 42-41164, the tunnel gun mount in the rear ventral fuselage was replaced by a manned Sperry ball turret similar to that mounted on the late B-17E»/Joe baugher/

you think it's not a problem when we have B-24D-25-CO?


P.S.
original 24H-15-FO http://www.467bg.com/witchcraft.html
your photo B-24J-85-CF http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1460160518032776295xvNHMO

 

Well, it was an emotional, spur of the moment list and I cut and pasted from the rps website during work.
So it was not very well thought-out. In fact there was no thought.

Yes, even the snoopy plane could go.

I think that demian and mumbles have some very good ideas about removing planes and those "masturbation specials".
Far better thought-out than my list.

The early versions of the spit and hurricane just suck. Might as well just fly the damned snoopy.

I think the 190A8 and the 190D-whatever version could be the only two needed to represent the 190 family.

The basic idea is the present the minimum versions of each type: 109-190-spit-hur-MIG if it has to stay.

Same thing with the La series. I did miss that, there could be just the La7 or the La5n and then the La7, but two La5s is pointless. One note: if memory serves Aces High uses the La7 variant with the 3 X 20mm cannons.

I do not know the Zekes series but my choice would be to keep just the latest version.

The 109T is just wrong. Sorry I cannot think of what could be done for that. Maybe put an Italian plane in there? Maybe one of the other Japanese planes...

Or leave the 109t and allow the B25 to take-off from CV?

Could the admin/devs take some data from the game and see what planes are used the most frequently?

Could some kind of data collection software be coded-up to plot plane use over time period?

In any event it seems that many agree the rps has very unpopular planes that a lot of players would not miss.

 

OK, then give me the J model.

 

J has buggy (invisible) graphics, so we decided to leave D.
the only differences between D and J:
nose guns: D 2x12.7 flexible mount, J 2x12.7 turret
bottom guns: D 1x12.7 flexible mount, J 2x12.7 ball turret

the thing we can do is to give ball turret to D.

 

Exec, so are you still something like a developer? I thought that you resigned for all your (non-payment) functions

 

Forgot about the gfx.

Thanks for thinking of putting ball turret in D model!

 

dev-team stated my presence as a condition for continuing their work...

 

ah, so GL