Planes that I hope to fly someday in FH...

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by joseh-, Sep 24, 2009.

  1. -exec-

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    will consider merging it with mk.iic.

    theoretically mk.iia has more powerful engine. probably made against 109 f-2.

    d-2 is a development mistake.

    principal new-design fighter of ussr, mistargeted to high altitudes.

    i'll ask fas to verify f6f-3, f6f-5, n1k1-jb, n1k2-ja

    it's shorter than Bf 109 E-4, Bf 109 F-2, Bf 109 F-4, Bf 109 G-2, Bf 109 G-2/R6, Bf 109 G-6, Bf 109 G-6/R6, Bf 109 G-14, Bf 109 G-14/R6, Bf 109 K-4, Bf 109 T-1 and Fw 190 A-3, Fw 190 A-4, Fw 190 A-6, Fw 190 A-8, Fw 190 D-9, Fw 190 F-8 and Seafire L IIC, Spitfire Ia, Spitfire IIa, Spitfire Vb, Spitfire Vc, Spitfire IXc, Spitfire LF IXc, Spitfire XIV.

    careful reader could even notice that designs of Yak-1/3 and Yak-7/9 are different. row Yak-1(20)..Yak-3(16) has two planes. row Yak-7B(22)..Yak-9D..Yak-9T has three planes. confer to 8 spits, 11 messers, 6 focke-wulfs.

    however, merging Yak-9T and Yak-9D is an interesting idea.

    question postponed.

    principal ones: M-82, M-82F, M-82FN and La-7 on the top on them.

    in hope for tanks. hurr2d also.

    luftwhiners asked for it.
    primary model was pe-2 series 13 with 12.7 for navigator and 12.7 for radioman. for these whiners we made wrong pe-2 series 13 with shkas for navigator. but to restore 12.7 (and count new engines too) we made then pe-2 series 179 for 1943.
    however, i'd be satisfied with only one correct pe-2 series 13 with 12.7 for navigator without pe-2 series 179.
     
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    these are BoB mainstays.

    golds use Fw 190 A-4 and even required A-3 to get it earlier.

    minimalistic rps is funny idea. say we could discard some ien-yankees planes, add some english and soviet, et voila, we made it to 64 (60) planes limit.
    sometimes i make draft for such a version. check attach.

    that's la-7 proposed to ien by russian players. very detailed charts, schemes, data. ien was shocked and ignored it. but these data went to aceshigh.

    there were only 368 3x20 la-7's. it's production of 1945.

    "erase this early, erase that early". you will attain fh only after 1944 begins?

    it has 4x50kg for 4 acks. zekes have only 2x50.
    but i agree with the fact that this experiment failed.

    ask bimbom for scorepages.

    i'd classify them as:
    1)erroneously modelled fm and firepower. we must check that.
    2)non-concurrent with axis/allies alternative. i think about dividing countries by corners of the map.
    3)non-concurrent within same country, such as hurr1 under spit1, and he111 under ju88. so hurr1 and he111 could have sense only in scenarios. these planes are possibly not needed.
     
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    Well...
    I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that merging the Yak-9D into Yak-9T is better.
    IMO Yak-9T is much better than Yak-9D, so I do prefer the 9T to stay.

    I do agree with you about Pe-2s versions. Just one corrected version of Pe-2 series 13 is enough.
    And pls remove Pe-2 from gold CV, I think it's a bug but I cannot take off with it! :p :p

    lol.... We must have useless UFO then?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  4. Zembla JG13

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    Isn't there some useless Japanese torpedo plane you can remove as well? Or has that been taken already?

    In any case, in my opinion, if a plane is taken out, it should be replaced by a plane that's more worthy of the spot.

    -Z
     
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    my vision is to build strength of countries, not blocks
    and b5n2 is the only carrier based torpedo bomber. actually it's a monopolist in goldania.
     
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    Don't remove the D3a....it's a good turn fighter....I mean bomber.
     
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    exec is talking like communist idiot.
     
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    Exec I don't think anyone ever asked for another pe-2...
    and you say luftwhiners asked for it? you must be kidding or something is lost in the translation here...

    if you wanted to just FIX the pe-2 because people asked for it, then adding another pe-2 can not be considered fixing anything, mkay?

    also you really should look into those ottos on the pe-2, are they really the same thing that on any other plane? 'cause they sure as hell don't look like it, and it's not just my opinion either
     
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    blablabla

    the eng doesnt cut under negative G
     
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    vanish to tabahost/aceshigh at once. but better to silent hunter.
     
  11. FranzAugust

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    No I won't. And i can argue about anything I want for my 0$/monthly!! :mad:


    Smily Edith
     
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    banned by communist idiot
     
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    LOOOOOOL
    Is it true?


    Btw, is Pe-2 on gold CV a bug or only in my PC it happens?
     
  14. Red Ant

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    I don't. I won't necessarily like it, but if you need the plane slot for a new plane, go ahead.

    Not sure what you mean, but according to Warren Bodie, 1,400 J-15-LO Lightnings were delivered from Dec. 43 to May 44.
     
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    sounds like a bug.
     
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    folks suggest to merge yak-9t and yak-9d. slot will go to yak-1b series 111.
    if pyrcus give us ki-48 graphics, we will erase p-39d-2-be.

    i mean exactly block 25. though there were 210 of them, actually.
    also they sunk c-47 that carried field kits with those dive flaps to af8, that delayed the matter even further.
     
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    Ah sorry, I totally screwed up my edit there. Dunno how that happened. %)

    J-25-LO: June 44 - Nov 44 (according to Bodie)
     
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    From this point of view, everything looks differently.
    Adding new yaks then looks ok.
    But , thing is, when we talk what we would like or not, we talk about balance
    in 2 sides game..Not in 4.
    In 2-side game, there is no point in adding all models to match number of 109s and 190s. Or spits.

    IMHO, this is not ok. In that case, we dont need at all p-47s,p-38s, hurricanes,F6fs etc.
    Game should not go into direction of supporting dweebery, but Variety of choices for different players.
    I myself prefer hurri1 over spit1.
    Then mig over spit.
    Then p-47 over yak.
    I am not the only one who thinks like that.
    That goes for buffs as well, many players are on FH just because of many choices for doing same thing.
    Btw, BoB was won by English because of hurris not spits.:shuffle:
     
  20. looseleaf

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    I think it makes sense to limit the types of planes depending the scenarios.
    BoB with snoopy plane and zekes is just not right.
    Who won that air war is still being debated!
    The Germans say they were ordered to stop.
    The British say they won because there was no land invasion by Germans.
    One of the facts was that the British had only about a week to ten days left of spares and after that there would be mo more Brit planes flying.
    Also remember the very limited time over target the German planes had- that real fuel range is completely negated here at FH.
    Yes, the Hurricane did most of the fighting, but the Spits got the Hollywood treatment just like the B24s did the most bombing and the B17 got the most publicity.

    Again, I think some regional limits on plane selection is a good thing.