Tready: Give Fuel Back...

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by spuint, May 30, 2004.

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Would you like the old fuel rates back?

Poll closed Jul 30, 2004.
  1. Yes

    75.3%
  2. No

    24.7%
  1. Odisseo

    Odisseo Well-Known Member

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    Re: GIVE THE FUEL BACK


    I hope you'r joking...
     
  2. RolandGarros

    RolandGarros Well-Known Member

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    at least 3 threads on fuel issue.
    maybe combine them under the heading of "view inside the horse's mouth"?
     
  3. Odisseo

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    Re: Game setting-fuel

    "most ppl" mean the most of those who still keep this comunity active by this forum or giving a help to admins.
    Most of peaple who play FH just don't care on how arena is setted, all they want is a big firepower and something to fire at.

    p.s. it's well know this host has a forum, anyone who want partecipate has just to write..who is absent it has always twisted
     
  4. Odisseo

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    I understand your point and I find it right, but, wich longrange fighters should have Axis side now? all axis fighters don't have enought fuel for long range flight + the only heavy bomber they have is the He177 wich it's already a spoonge..and if someone wish to survive has to climb for more than 200/250 miles (10 map squares) wich mean full fuel load wich mean a flying stone wich won't climb.
     
  5. rgreat

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    About ballance:
    here is full flight times at 100% power for all planes in 1.60:
    Code:
    1:F6F-5              : 0.99h
    2:F4F-4              : 0.73h
    3:FM-2               : 0.79h
    4:F4U-1D             : 1.19h
    5:A6M2               : 1.41h
    6:A6M3               : 1.11h
    7:A6M5a              : 1.23h
    8:Ki-43-II           : 1.04h
    9:Ki-84-Ia           : 1.35h
    10:Bf 109E-4         : 0.84h
    11:Bf 109F-4         : 0.94h
    12:Bf 109G-6         : 0.73h
    13:Bf 109G-6/R6      : 0.71h
    14:Bf 109K-4         : 0.73h
    15:Bf 110C-4         : 1.21h
    16:Bf 110G-2         : 0.94h
    17:Fw 190A-4         : 0.97h
    18:Fw 190A-8         : 0.97h
    19:Fw 190D-9         : 0.80h
    20:Hurricane I       : 1.13h
    21:Hurricane IIC     : 0.93h
    22:Spitfire Ia       : 1.22h
    23:Spitfire Vc       : 0.87h
    24:Spitfire IXe      : 0.75h
    25:P-38F             : 1.14h
    26:P-38J             : 1.17h
    27:P-38L             : 1.17h
    28:P-39D             : 0.79h
    29:P-40E             : 1.08h
    30:P-47D             : 1.22h
    31:P-51D             : 1.63h
    32:D3A2              : 1.62h
    33:B5N2              : 1.65h
    34:SBD-5             : 1.48h
    35:Ju 88A-4          : 2.87h
    36:B-25H             : 2.09h
    37:B-25J             : 2.09h
    38:B-17G             : 3.73h
    39:TBF-1C            : 1.90h
    40:B-17F             : 2.28h
    41:B-25C             : 2.09h
    42:P-40B             : 1.15h
    43:P-47C             : 1.01h
    44:P-51B             : 1.63h
    45:Seafire II        : 0.87h
    46:Spitfire XIV      : 0.67h
    47:F4U-4             : 0.91h
    48:Me 262A-1a        : 0.89h
    49:Yak-3             : 0.64h
    50:Yak-9D            : 1.19h
    51:Ju 87D            : 0.96h
    52:Mosquito VI       : 2.68h
    53:Mosquito IV       : 2.68h
    54:Ju 52             : 3.94h
    55:G4M2              : 3.78h
    56:Ki-61-Ib          : 1.04h
    57:Ju 87G            : 0.96h
    58:B-24D             : 3.79h
    59:B-24J             : 3.79h
    60:F4F-3             : 0.74h
    61:chute             : 0.00h
    62:pilot             : 0.00h
    63:Foo               : 1.48h
    64:La-5FN            : 0.77h
    65:Bf 109G-14        : 0.66h
    66:Bf 109G-14/R6     : 0.65h
    67:He-177A-3/R2      : 4.97h
    68:Yak-9             : 0.81h
    69:IL-2              : 0.96h
    70:I-16 Type 28      : 0.84h
    71:Yak-1             : 0.77h
    72:A6M5b             : 1.17h
    73:MiG-3 type 1      : 1.18h
    74:MiG-3 type 2      : 1.18h
    75:Pe-2              : 1.08h
    76:LaGG-3            : 0.78h
    77:La-5              : 0.77h
    78:La-7              : 0.77h
    79:MC.202            : 0.99h
    80:Bf 109G-2         : 0.70h
    81:Fw 190F-8         : 0.88h
    82:Li-2              : 4.77h
    83:Observer craft    : 5.46h
    84:Yak-9T            : 0.81h
    85:#Jeep Ack         : 0.97h
    86:Bf 109T-1         : 0.84h
    87:N1K1-J            : 1.49h
    88:N1K2-J            : 1.49h
    89:Bf 109G-2/R6      : 0.69h
    90:P-39Q             : 1.06h
    91:Fw 190A-8/R8      : 0.97h
    92:DB-3F             : 4.11h
    93:Typhoon 1B        : 0.94h
    94:Tempest V         : 0.94h
    95:Me 410A           : 2.68h
    96:I-153             : 0.80h
    97:Ki-61-Ic          : 1.04h
    98:IL-2M             : 0.96h
    99:I-16 Type 29      : 0.84h
    100:Me 410B          : 2.68h
    101:#Tank            : 0.97h
    102:FAU              : 0.89h
    103:Ki-27            : 0.80h
    104:Bf 109F-2        : 0.94h
    105:IL-2M3           : 0.96h
    106:Ju 87B           : 1.48h
    107:B-299            : 0.74h
    108:F2A              : 0.74h
    109:Spitfire IIa     : 1.22h
    110:F6F-3            : 0.99h
    111:F4U-1A           : 1.19h
    112:Bf 110F-1        : 1.02h
    113:Ju 88A-1         : 2.87h
    114:MC.205V          : 0.99h
    115:Ju 87D-5         : 0.96h
    116:Ki-44            : 1.35h
    I guess it pretty similar for both sides.
    He-177 climb is fixed.
    And also 177 have most range from all buffs. ;)
    Some planes data is still way off real values but we working on that.
     
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  6. Glas

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    Rgreat thx for the info, and fixing the 177 CS :)

    -glas-
     
  7. Glas

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    Re: Game setting-fuel

    Agreed Odi, if u dont voice your opinions in the forums, you dont have a voice, simple as that.

    Its the only way devs can see what the players think. Also, its fair to say any forum poll is a fair reflection on how the players as a whole feel.

    -glas-
     
  8. rgreat

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    Re: Game setting-fuel

    Well. Not exacly.
    Dissapointed people tends to voice their opinions much more often then content ones.

    Basic sociology.
     
  9. -afi--

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    Another fuel thread

    Jesus Christ, 1 is enough.

    You guys need to spend less time on this game. No offense.
     
  10. -exec-

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    [moderatorial]
    i merged all fuel threads.
    [/moderatorial]
     
  11. Allsop

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    I noticed my thread was a lil full. but youd be more of a help if youd just bring back old fuel. or atleast fix the 100% bug
     
  12. bizerk

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    LOL OH MY GOD! I just looked at the poll and 14 people said no to have old fuel load outs back. in a guess probably all the same person with different names lol. to be honest. i just came back after a month off. and i must say, what a joke! lol ok goingback to iL2 then. i just wish my connection was better for iL2.

    <S>

    P.S. first it was planes handling reduced sometime ago. ( in my opinion to help curb with warping with next to nil results.) now automatic 100% fuel given with out consent or even the chance to set your own fuel load out. lol i guess its to get newbies in here that do not know any better, and get good decent pilots to leave. man o man. nothing like changing a good thing (like 2.76 was years ago, even 2.77) and and changing itinto, hmmm what is my guess. sorry so negative, but some one got up on the wrong side of bed it seems
     
  13. beryl

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    Jeep,tank, MC205 (WHOOOHAAA!!!) Bufallus and Ki-44 - cool :)

    Ranges are ok for me ;) I'm no more against new fuel settings
     
  14. RolandGarros

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    bf110, Me410, Ki43, N1k, Ki84 are all long range birds, i've rarely rolled them with even as much as 40% gas (except 110 which seems a bit shorter legged than the others) - a6m has always surpised me by how soon it goes dry - was a super long range plane IRL, but that was with 40gal non detachable external tank on, so maybe that is why it is short here
     
  15. Odisseo

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    wish you make long range (about 15/20 min) travels for tactic fights in 1943/44 in a 110 410 or niky against yaks F6F Spits ect? :)
     
  16. spuint

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    i understand that disabling some fields would be too hard for those 'kamikazes'?
    so to avoid quakish game, ur makin it even more quake?
     
  17. spuint

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    Re: Game setting-fuel

    ratio..
    over 50 ppl voted, with ratio 3:1
    thats a reasonable number to make conclusion that ppl do not like this setting;

    i mean, when economist scans freemarket, is he askin every single potential customer?


    to make smbdy start a thread? true
    but when topic was bring out, that doesnt really matters; as long ppl do not agree with poll results, they would vote;
    thats basic sociology too;
     
  18. spuint

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    110g2 has flight time somewhere about of 190a4s actually; afair;
    but seriously, which of those u recommend for a fight now?
     
  19. spuint

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    Re: GIVE THE FUEL BACK

    about..?
    i cant fly the way im used to;
    kamikazes get advantage over me, because i care to rtb and they dont;
    they fight to the last drop of fuel, attackin me landin in my acks, and soon after that crashing nearby;
    so, if i cant fly like i would like, im not gonna fly like they want me to;

    and sick atmosphere?
    ppl clearly dislike this idea and its forced anyway..
    well, i really hope that current sett is for testing purposes (however i cant see connection); but till reasonable settings are back, im out;
    back to AH, where i can play with fuel tanks :D and have so much fuel i can here dream about ;)
    and some ppl i used to respect acts like mad dogs;
     
  20. spuint

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    tell me, why do u think that ur the only one who could think of such cunning plan?
    u think ur that smart or ppl that dumb?