Tready: Give Fuel Back...

Discussion in 'Warbirds International' started by spuint, May 30, 2004.

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Would you like the old fuel rates back?

Poll closed Jul 30, 2004.
  1. Yes

    75.3%
  2. No

    24.7%
  1. ---cat

    ---cat Well-Known Member

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    mhh is it right that red get B29 superfortress in FH1.6?
    or isit just a mistake? :flyer:
    and what about He-111?

    see ya in air

    nice greetings pussycat
     
  2. Snakeye

    Snakeye Well-Known Member

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    Where did you get that B-29 from ? :confused:
    I can see B-299 only and I really couldn't call that superfortress even totally pissed ;)
     
  3. ---cat

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    mhhh as i said i wasnt sure,if he means b29 or b-299,i think he maybe mades a mistake and types one 9 to much..............
     
  4. --q---

    --q--- Well-Known Member

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    Re: GIVE THE FUEL BACK

    I can't either. Can anyone tell when this testing is to be ended, I can't wait.
     
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  5. RolandGarros

    RolandGarros Well-Known Member

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    Just now in the RPS i would take the 410 from a rear field, climb to 6km & head for the fight (watching for cons from all directions using gunner views). With alt 410 is a kick ass B&Z fighter - enemies are stupid to HO your attack & stupid to try to follow your zoom, but nobdy uses it as such, only as JaBo or last attepmt point defense ottomobile. I've landed 5 kill sorties in 410 more than once...i guess you just want long range 190s & 109s
     
  6. badbitch

    badbitch New Member

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    Please give Fuel time back!!!
    We need it for the longest raid ever in the WB history :)

    Or the new FH
    with this nice little He111
     
  7. big-jo

    big-jo Well-Known Member

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    ohh yeah, i miss them ...a raid with 25 ju88s....and many many many escorts.... :flyer:
     
  8. spuint

    spuint Well-Known Member

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    lets meet in TA
    u in 410, and me in spit9;

    i guess u just want golds to fight in crappy aircraft;
     
  9. gryphon

    gryphon Well-Known Member

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    in the end it will be like distance markers we will all get use to it and stop complaining. Distance markers ive acually come to injoy. makes flying into enmy territoy more
    suspesful cause ur always wandering if that dots red or gold. And i see pilots staying close to other same side pilots more so when the unidetified dot does jump u u got hlp :).

    I still think fuels a bitch but i see people adapting to it. my only real grip left is planes that compered easy b4 compress worse now and hvy off cv( sbd 1 1600 f6f-5 2 1000 + rocs and such...) needed 20% fuel full flaps, power brk to get nose down first, and u still dropped to 4-5 feet on roll. dont think its possible now, f6f with 2 500s i almost hit now as is. and typh with 2 1000s damn hard to get up small flds. maby large (1000lb bombs or such) could reduec restrict to 50%.. but then everone would cheat and drop after roll i supose :(

    What happed with plane number resticts? i kind of liked that, tho i thouhgt plane nubers shoulda bee wrked out alitte, per plane. 4 instance alwoying only 8 zeeks or wildcats when they only fighter avalible off a cv. It maid raids from cv too hard earily. ecicaly 4 gold seeing as none of their sbd type bombers have guns worth shooting.

    drop tanks would also be cool 4 fighter that used them. not that they are really needed exect for buff escort.

    also are reds getting la5f and la7 back in next version? I hrd we dindt get them because flight models were off. was that fixed?
     
  10. -frog-

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    I'm worried about 109K's future now... and that of Yak-9 too, cause now both birds will have like 50-70 Miles range (climb included). Today I flew a heavy Yak-9 from f3 to f9 (one of shortest distances on map), dropped ordnance on targets, flew a few circles around, engaged in a rather short DF... and had to hit the road back home, cause I was almost out of fuel. I wonder how this sortie would look like if i hadn't took 80% instead of 60% gas by mistake :dunno:
     
  11. --q---

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    Although I dont like the setting I have found that now kills are easier for me. I have allways used full fuel load, so now when it is burned faster I usualy engage first con with lighter plane, on the contrary the dogfighters now fly hevier planes. All this yaks and spits become now flying cows in the air.
    Too bad dora will be unflyable.
     
  12. budice

    budice Well-Known Member

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    If you think it is bad for fighters, try flying a buff. B25C restricted to 50% could barely make it from F5 to F1 and back with engines off. It just plain sucks goat balls for buffs.

    Hopefully, the infamous Russian "2 weeks" will not take as long as the last "2 weeks". Today the player counts were about half of what they normally have been during 4 pm time here (21:00 GMT?). Hopefully there will still be a player base left when this testing is complete and the new launcher is released.

    :zzz:
    Budice
     
  13. Broz

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    uffff, another boring gold-whiners thread. So, let's see, you have best climbers, best turners, fastest planes, and leave game because red planes can fly about 10-15 mins more than you. So, farewell to those who get tired.
     
  14. --q---

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    The problem is that some planes now have 10-15 mins of flight, this means no time for fight whatsoever.
     
  15. spuint

    spuint Well-Known Member

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    heh Broz.. but thats not the point if reds have more time to fly!
    with fueldiv 1.0 they have even more time right?
    the point is the best fighters have about 5-10min for a fight;
    its crucial 15-20min ur talkin about;

    and note one thing, i didnt said 'best gold fighters', i said 'best fighters'; both sides;
    fe. p47 (which i bet most reds do not consider as a good fighter..) or typh;

    and im wondering, why the hell p51 have so long flight time.. its range with internal tanks was rather low..
    that great range was achieved because of the external tank..
    of course, here u would say - but wb do not support external tanks so its fair to give p51 longer range..
    sure, but 109s had external fuel tanks too...


    btw.. i dont expect anybody to cry after me or anyone who leave because of any settings on MA;
    but let me give u one tip - check players balance charts
     
  16. -ada--

    -ada-- FH Beta Tester

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    You may call it red-whiners thread as well `cos it's equally bad to fly 20 minutes instead of 40 both in red plane or gold.
     
  17. thefox

    thefox Well-Known Member

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    Instead of us going on and on we should just find out the reason for the change. Sounds reasonable to me!

    Fuel consumption changed.....why?
    WBFH Reason:__________________
    Hmmm I see.
     
  18. --q---

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    I've red that there is some kind of testing underway, but nobody cares to tell what testing and what for.
     
  19. RolandGarros

    RolandGarros Well-Known Member

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    P-51s range on internal fuel only was excellent, in fact the standard method of operation for P-51s was to burn off 50 gallons of internal fuel from the 85 gallon center tank 1st, before switching to external tanks (the remaining internal gas being enough to fight & RTB after drop tanks were jettisoned - maybe because of the low drag wing cross section & airscoop?), because with a full load of internal petrol the manuverability was poor & the stall characteristics were also (CG too far back). P-47s & P-38s could carry much larger external fuel ammounts (2 x 300 gallon tanks on P-38 & also on P-47s or 3 external tanks on P-47s) and much larger total fuel ammounts, but couldnt match the range of the P-51s which never carried external tanks bigger than 165 gallons. I'm not sure, but i think the aircrafts ranges here reflect their ranges on internal fuel only (except on spit9 whch seems to have more range than it deserves), as P-38s & P47 & F4Us & A6Ms all seem to run out fairly fast & IRL these planes all carried big external fuel loads & were long range fighters
     
  20. spuint

    spuint Well-Known Member

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    thx for that, but goin straight to the point:
    isnt p51d flight time ~150min with current fuel div?
    with 35min of 109g2 its clearly too much;
    or that 150min of p51d was on fueldiv 1 (in that case - indeed - it seems to be +/- ok)? might be my mistake..